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  #21  
Old 28-01-10, 04:21 AM
Nusrat, Rowayton, Connecticut
 
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:34:06 -0800 (PST), yansimon52
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>On Jan 27, 6:33*am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>> President Sarkozy has reiterated that the burka is "not welcome" in
>> France. A French parliamentary committee has recommended that anyone
>> showing visible signs of "radical religious practice" should be
>> refused residence cards and citizenship.
>>
>> Is it right for France to ban the burka ?
>>
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>France now realised that they previously go easy with the exodus of
>middle eastern ppl into their country. Look at their city
>subway....like shits environment....their city low lying area building
>like shits with vandalism all over the place. There is vast difference
>if comparing the street of Paris and Cologne (Germany).....Why? The
>street of Paris is being tarnished by those middle eastern muslim.


I hate to have to tell you this but Germany is not too far behind.
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Old 28-01-10, 08:30 AM
yansimon52
 
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Default Re: Is France right to ban the burka ? France is stupid...Singaporeis laiki bodoh.

On Jan 28, 6:17*am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 9:08*pm, yansimon52 <yansimo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> > On Jan 27, 8:11*pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>
> > > On Jan 27, 2:34*pm, yansimon52 <yansimo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Jan 27, 6:33*am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>
> > > > > President Sarkozy has reiterated that the burka is "not welcome" in
> > > > > France. A French parliamentary committee has recommended that anyone
> > > > > showing visible signs of "radical religious practice" should be
> > > > > refused residence cards and citizenship.

>
> > > > > Is it right for France to ban the burka ?

>
> > > > >
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> > > > France now realised that they previously go easy with the exodus of
> > > > middle eastern ppl into their country. Look at their city
> > > > subway....like shits environment....their city low lying area building
> > > > like shits with vandalism all over the place. There is vast difference
> > > > if comparing the street of Paris and Cologne (Germany).....Why? *The
> > > > street of Paris is being tarnished by those middle eastern muslim.

>
> > > Hi Simoni....
> > > Haven't read your postings lately. Joined the new opposition
> > > party ?

>
> > > Yeah...France was too short-sighted....in allowing too many
> > > foreigners to migrate into their country.
> > > France is not alone.....Singapore is laiki bodoh,
> > > Hundreds of thousands of Indians have migrated here..
> > > and worse still they bring *their relatives ILLIGALLY,
> > > (on social visit passes) to live and work here.

>
> > > Now the Indians are creating social problems...and soon
> > > they will create political problems for the PAP.

>
> > Halo Botak...yeah don't come here as often just peep in at
> > times....cos, alot of buddies also disapeared...ie. Observer or
> > Lobert...hahaha..

>
> Hi Simoni...
>
> Good to hear from you even occasionally. I thought,
> you've gone into politics like Madcow...or too busy
> enjoying marikita with China women.
>
> > Well reason for Sg to welcome foreigners probably Sg need to be
> > competitive in the world market with cheaper worker.....

>
> Somehow, the reasons for allowing too many Indian
> immigrants into Singapore ...do not sound convincing...it
> is too short sighted. ...
> It will be like...the "stop at two" policy.... The consequences
> of this flawed immigration policy will be far, far more
> damaging to Singapore...for future generations. I have seen
> it in Fiji, in Nepal, in other African states.
> I don't mind immigrants from the Philippines, Vietnam,
> Myanmar....but Indian immigrants are bad for our future


Hahahaha....you scared of indian ah?.......or are you referring to
choosing a chinese lawyer or an indian lawyer ah?
When you want to engage a lawyer to collect money or a straight
forward case where you are the plaintiff....then a chinese lawyer ok
la.....but when you are a defendent to fight a complicated case....I
think an indian lawyer is better la....agree or not?

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Old 28-01-10, 02:19 PM
Lou Ravi
 
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baldeagle wrote:
> On Jan 27, 8:57 am, Superbee <superb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 6:33 am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> >
> > > President Sarkozy has reiterated that the burka is "not welcome"
> > > in France. A French parliamentary committee has recommended that
> > > anyone showing visible signs of "radical religious practice"
> > > should be refused residence cards and citizenship.

> >
> > > Is it right for France to ban the burka ?

> >
> > >
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> > The burka is just a piece of cloth which if you think about it,
> > could be re-fashioned to cover your chest, buttocks, etc But the
> > burka covers the entire face except the eyes. So what so bad about
> > that? It's the same as Ninjas in ancient Japan. Then here is where
> > we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. On the surface it looks
> > innocent enough, but below, it may hold dangerous ideologies or
> > extremist philosophies. It is no long just a piece of clothing but
> > what does the burka represent? What repercussions does it have on
> > those who wear them and to those who come into contact with them?
> > Does it represent a "separative" statement? Is a separative signal
> > what the country wants? Does the burka represent a repressive
> > ideology in the modern society of equality. In france, about 2,000
> > people wear the burka in a population of over 60 million. I am more
> > concern about extremist elements that have hidden agendas and is
> > only using the burka as an excuse to further their own ends.

>
> If people can look at the burka dispassionately, they see
> the burka as a piece of cloth, for covering the face of a
> woman.
> But people are emotional creatures..and what they wear
> are charged statements of their being...eg latest beauty
> fashion, religious robes, military or police uniform...
>
> To the Muslim burka wearer, it symbolises modesty,
> the moral superiority of Allah's people. (just wonder,
> Muslim males who bare their faces must be immoral !)
>
> To the French, it represent a threat to the purity of
> French culture, and the failure of these foreigners
> to be integrated into French society. It is also the
> banners of the millions Muslim trouble makers.
> (Stupid to allow 5 millions to migrate to France)


It isn't a question of preserving the purity of French culture, it has none,
it is, happily so, a nation of immigrants; Romans, Vandals, Goths, Moors,
Vikings etc. Inevtitable by its position in Europe. Those invasions and
immigrations are what have made French culture and France. But each has
caused problems no doubt.
There isn't really an "immigrant problem" in France IMO but there are
problems with, usually, the second or third generation offspring of
immigrants, those are the kids setting fire to cars in the suburbs of Paris
because they no longer belong 100% to their father or grandfather's culture,
often very little in fact, but for real or imaginary reasons, they haven't
managed to become 100% French.

Nowadays, the active proselytising of the Mad Mullahs and Islam generally is
giving some of them a point to their lives. Like all the newly converted,
they are over zealous and so go in for blowing themselves up in the worst
case, or locking their wife up in a Burqa at 'best'. While every inhabitant
of France should have the right to influence the country and its culture, if
what they wish to influence or bring in goes against the wishes of the
existing majority, then it is normal that they be resisted by that majority.
Such is the case for the Burqa, on many grounds, and it should be banned. It
is in complete opposition in every way to what Europe represents.


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Old 28-01-10, 02:20 PM
Lou Ravi
 
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rst0wxyz wrote:
> Where is "freedom of religion"?
>
> Yeah, the men in power can decide what is freedom, what is not.


Why should religion have freedom?


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Old 31-01-10, 01:46 PM
baldeagle
 
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Default Re: Is France right to ban the burka ? France is stupid...Singaporeis laiki bodoh.

On Jan 28, 4:30*pm, yansimon52 <yansimo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 6:17*am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 9:08*pm, yansimon52 <yansimo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Jan 27, 8:11*pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>
> > > > On Jan 27, 2:34*pm, yansimon52 <yansimo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > On Jan 27, 6:33*am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>
> > > > > > President Sarkozy has reiterated that the burka is "not welcome" in
> > > > > > France. A French parliamentary committee has recommended that anyone
> > > > > > showing visible signs of "radical religious practice" should be
> > > > > > refused residence cards and citizenship.

>
> > > > > > Is it right for France to ban the burka ?

>
> > > > > >
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> > > > > France now realised that they previously go easy with the exodus of
> > > > > middle eastern ppl into their country. Look at their city
> > > > > subway....like shits environment....their city low lying area building
> > > > > like shits with vandalism all over the place. There is vast difference
> > > > > if comparing the street of Paris and Cologne (Germany).....Why? * The
> > > > > street of Paris is being tarnished by those middle eastern muslim..

>
> > > > Hi Simoni....
> > > > Haven't read your postings lately. Joined the new opposition
> > > > party ?

>
> > > > Yeah...France was too short-sighted....in allowing too many
> > > > foreigners to migrate into their country.
> > > > France is not alone.....Singapore is laiki bodoh,
> > > > Hundreds of thousands of Indians have migrated here..
> > > > and worse still they bring *their relatives ILLIGALLY,
> > > > (on social visit passes) to live and work here.

>
> > > > Now the Indians are creating social problems...and soon
> > > > they will create political problems for the PAP.

>
> > > Halo Botak...yeah don't come here as often just peep in at
> > > times....cos, alot of buddies also disapeared...ie. Observer or
> > > Lobert...hahaha..

>
> > Hi Simoni...

>
> > Good to hear from you even occasionally. I thought,
> > you've gone into politics like Madcow...or too busy
> > enjoying marikita with China women.

>
> > > Well reason for Sg to welcome foreigners probably Sg need to be
> > > competitive in the world market with cheaper worker.....

>
> > Somehow, the reasons for allowing too many Indian
> > immigrants into Singapore ...do not sound convincing...it
> > is too short sighted. ...
> > It will be like...the "stop at two" policy.... The consequences
> > of this flawed immigration policy will be far, far more
> > damaging to Singapore...for future generations. I have seen
> > it in Fiji, in Nepal, in other African states.
> > I don't mind immigrants from the Philippines, Vietnam,
> > Myanmar....but Indian immigrants are bad for our future

>
> Hahahaha....you scared of indian ah?.......or are you referring to
> choosing a chinese lawyer or an indian lawyer ah?
> When you want to engage a lawyer to collect money or a straight
> forward case where you are the plaintiff....then a chinese lawyer ok
> la.....but when you are a defendent to fight a complicated case....I
> think an indian lawyer is better la....agree or not?



Hi Simoni...

I don't like to use the lawyer to settle disputes
in courts. The lawyers are the winners, whatever the
outcome.

For insignificant matters, I would handle any
dispute personally...I win some and I lose some....
it doesn't matter but I have fun.

For big deals...I use the service of 'experts' who
know how to make demands which always end in
positive results for me.
If they had to get nasty with the other party...they do
so without involving me.

Never use lawyers...Chinese or Indians.
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