Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:

Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause

By Nitin Sethi
TNN
The Times of India
Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Copenhagen: Under Kyoto Protocol, only industrialized countries are
required to undertake emission reduction targets for the second phase
starting 2012. (Watch Video)

For the past week, they have tried every trick to prevent talks at
the Copenhagen summit to progress on the front. They have instead
tried to push for a deal in the second track called the Long Term
Cooperative Action talks demanding all countries, including emerging
economies, to take commitments, of one or the other kind, to reduce
emissions as equals regardless of historical responsibility.

With just three days remaining for all practical purposes (day four
onwards the heads of states gather at the Danish capital) the African
groups frustrated at the way industrialized countries were playing
the game, have literally become the infantry for the developing
world's interests in the climate wars.

But other Latin American countries warned that attempts were still
being made to have discussions with select countries at the cost of
marginalizing voices of economically less important nations. Rumours
of dinner diplomacy between select developing countries with
industrialized nations and deals being cut on the side instead of in
the main negotiations had the smaller countries fuming on Monday.

The moral leadership at the Copenhagen meet was wrested by the
African countries on Monday when, in a show of strength and
solidarity, they stalled the climate talks and walked out as the rich
industrialized countries began demanding that the Kyoto Protocol be
set aside and discussions be held on only a single new track.

In short, Africa erupted in outrage when the rich countries refused
to provide money and technology to the poorer countries as enshrined
in the Kyoto Protocol. Under Kyoto, the rich are expected to reduce
their emissions too. Until now, the leadership in this fight has been
provided by emerging economies like India and China. On Monday, they
followed the African countries and staged a walkout along with other
G-77 members, barring a small ginger group of island countries.

With the climate talks hitting a roadblock, the rich countries have
relented for the moment and included Kyoto in the talks. However,
with barely 72 hours left to stitch up the details of a global
climate deal, for which world leaders are expected to reach
Copenhagen, Monday's face-off is hardly a hopeful augury.

Once the African nations had decided to give as hard as they were
getting from the industrialised countries, the BASIC four countries --
India, China, South Africa and Brazil -- rallied behind them. They
confronted the president of the negotiations -- the host Danes -- on
the seeming logjam. Environment minister Jairam Ramesh took the lead,
with the four key countries registering their protest that the
schedule of talks for Monday had been engineered in a way that
discussions on the Kyoto Protocol had been marginalized in favour of
industrialized countries' demand that negotiations on Long Term
Cooperative Action be prioritized.

The solidarity of G-77 forced the Danes to back down. Danish
environment minister Connie Hedegaard committed that the host country
would ensure only the discussions held by the negotiators, complete
or not, would be taken to the heads of states' meet for perusal on
Friday and that new proposals from outside would not be brought in
(something the developing countries had blamed the Danes earlier in
the talks of doing).

[url]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Africa-emerges-champion-of-developing-worlds-cause/articleshow/5338173.cms[/url]

End of forwarded article

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Forwarded message:

Sandhya Jain wrote on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:

This is China's diplomacy. That is how great nations operate. China
is a fitting answer to the white racists. India under Manmohan can
only twiddle its thumbs

Sandhya

End of forwarded message

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


> Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
>
> Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause
>
> By Nitin Sethi
> TNN
> The Times of India
> Tuesday, December 15, 2009
>
> Copenhagen: Under Kyoto Protocol, only industrialized countries are
> required to undertake emission reduction targets for the second phase
> starting 2012. (Watch Video)
>
> For the past week, they have tried every trick to prevent talks at
> the Copenhagen summit to progress on the front. They have instead
> tried to push for a deal in the second track called the Long Term
> Cooperative Action talks demanding all countries, including emerging
> economies, to take commitments, of one or the other kind, to reduce
> emissions as equals regardless of historical responsibility.
>
> With just three days remaining for all practical purposes (day four
> onwards the heads of states gather at the Danish capital) the African
> groups frustrated at the way industrialized countries were playing
> the game, have literally become the infantry for the developing
> world's interests in the climate wars.
>
> But other Latin American countries warned that attempts were still
> being made to have discussions with select countries at the cost of
> marginalizing voices of economically less important nations. Rumours
> of dinner diplomacy between select developing countries with
> industrialized nations and deals being cut on the side instead of in
> the main negotiations had the smaller countries fuming on Monday.
>
> The moral leadership at the Copenhagen meet was wrested by the
> African countries on Monday when, in a show of strength and
> solidarity, they stalled the climate talks and walked out as the rich
> industrialized countries began demanding that the Kyoto Protocol be
> set aside and discussions be held on only a single new track.
>
> In short, Africa erupted in outrage when the rich countries refused
> to provide money and technology to the poorer countries as enshrined
> in the Kyoto Protocol. Under Kyoto, the rich are expected to reduce
> their emissions too. Until now, the leadership in this fight has been
> provided by emerging economies like India and China. On Monday, they
> followed the African countries and staged a walkout along with other
> G-77 members, barring a small ginger group of island countries.
>
> With the climate talks hitting a roadblock, the rich countries have
> relented for the moment and included Kyoto in the talks. However,
> with barely 72 hours left to stitch up the details of a global
> climate deal, for which world leaders are expected to reach
> Copenhagen, Monday's face-off is hardly a hopeful augury.
>
> Once the African nations had decided to give as hard as they were
> getting from the industrialised countries, the BASIC four countries --
> India, China, South Africa and Brazil -- rallied behind them. They
> confronted the president of the negotiations -- the host Danes -- on
> the seeming logjam. Environment minister Jairam Ramesh took the lead,
> with the four key countries registering their protest that the
> schedule of talks for Monday had been engineered in a way that
> discussions on the Kyoto Protocol had been marginalized in favour of
> industrialized countries' demand that negotiations on Long Term
> Cooperative Action be prioritized.
>
> The solidarity of G-77 forced the Danes to back down. Danish
> environment minister Connie Hedegaard committed that the host country
> would ensure only the discussions held by the negotiators, complete
> or not, would be taken to the heads of states' meet for perusal on
> Friday and that new proposals from outside would not be brought in
> (something the developing countries had blamed the Danes earlier in
> the talks of doing).
>
> [url]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Africa-emerges-champion-of-dev[/url]
> eloping-worlds-cause/articleshow/5338173.cms
>
> End of forwarded article
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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[email]usenet@mantra.com[/email] and/or [url]www.mantra.com/jai[/url] (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote in
news:20091215Rf42EU7nr6P13l5gO6oFj9P@Hy6rx:

> Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
>
> Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause

Stupid, tree-dwelling NIGGERS can't champion anything. Their own countries
are hell-holes of murder, corruption and AIDS. A more worthless race does
not exist.

Forwarded message:

J Jindal wrote on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:

Don't forget the history. China has mostly been a superpower during
the last 2000 years except for about 300 years when the Europeans
were compeletly dominating the world. Even then no European power
dared to actually attempt to invade and take over China. Compare that
to the Indian's mindset. They have been stupidly harping on the
peaceful existence since around 300 BC (since Ashok's time). Whenever
invaded, the best they ever did was to make some half hearted
attempts to fight the invaders, mostly ending up losing to them. They
have perfectly well learned to live as subjugated subjects during the
last thirteen centuries. The present day (since independence) so-
called political leaders of India, irrespective of which political
outfit they belong to, keep on shouting SHANTI, PEACE, Kabhi Jang
Nahin Karain Ge Hum etc. etc....This non-sense is not likely to stop
any time soon, at least not for the next few decades.

J. Jindal

End of forwarded message

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

> Forwarded message:
>
> Sandhya Jain wrote on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
>
> This is China's diplomacy. That is how great nations operate. China
> is a fitting answer to the white racists. India under Manmohan can
> only twiddle its thumbs
>
> Sandhya
>
> End of forwarded message
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
> > Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
> >
> > Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause
> >
> > By Nitin Sethi
> > TNN
> > The Times of India
> > Tuesday, December 15, 2009
> >
> > Copenhagen: Under Kyoto Protocol, only industrialized countries are
> > required to undertake emission reduction targets for the second phase
> > starting 2012. (Watch Video)
> >
> > For the past week, they have tried every trick to prevent talks at
> > the Copenhagen summit to progress on the front. They have instead
> > tried to push for a deal in the second track called the Long Term
> > Cooperative Action talks demanding all countries, including emerging
> > economies, to take commitments, of one or the other kind, to reduce
> > emissions as equals regardless of historical responsibility.
> >
> > With just three days remaining for all practical purposes (day four
> > onwards the heads of states gather at the Danish capital) the African
> > groups frustrated at the way industrialized countries were playing
> > the game, have literally become the infantry for the developing
> > world's interests in the climate wars.
> >
> > But other Latin American countries warned that attempts were still
> > being made to have discussions with select countries at the cost of
> > marginalizing voices of economically less important nations. Rumours
> > of dinner diplomacy between select developing countries with
> > industrialized nations and deals being cut on the side instead of in
> > the main negotiations had the smaller countries fuming on Monday.
> >
> > The moral leadership at the Copenhagen meet was wrested by the
> > African countries on Monday when, in a show of strength and
> > solidarity, they stalled the climate talks and walked out as the rich
> > industrialized countries began demanding that the Kyoto Protocol be
> > set aside and discussions be held on only a single new track.
> >
> > In short, Africa erupted in outrage when the rich countries refused
> > to provide money and technology to the poorer countries as enshrined
> > in the Kyoto Protocol. Under Kyoto, the rich are expected to reduce
> > their emissions too. Until now, the leadership in this fight has been
> > provided by emerging economies like India and China. On Monday, they
> > followed the African countries and staged a walkout along with other
> > G-77 members, barring a small ginger group of island countries.
> >
> > With the climate talks hitting a roadblock, the rich countries have
> > relented for the moment and included Kyoto in the talks. However,
> > with barely 72 hours left to stitch up the details of a global
> > climate deal, for which world leaders are expected to reach
> > Copenhagen, Monday's face-off is hardly a hopeful augury.
> >
> > Once the African nations had decided to give as hard as they were
> > getting from the industrialised countries, the BASIC four countries --
> > India, China, South Africa and Brazil -- rallied behind them. They
> > confronted the president of the negotiations -- the host Danes -- on
> > the seeming logjam. Environment minister Jairam Ramesh took the lead,
> > with the four key countries registering their protest that the
> > schedule of talks for Monday had been engineered in a way that
> > discussions on the Kyoto Protocol had been marginalized in favour of
> > industrialized countries' demand that negotiations on Long Term
> > Cooperative Action be prioritized.
> >
> > The solidarity of G-77 forced the Danes to back down. Danish
> > environment minister Connie Hedegaard committed that the host country
> > would ensure only the discussions held by the negotiators, complete
> > or not, would be taken to the heads of states' meet for perusal on
> > Friday and that new proposals from outside would not be brought in
> > (something the developing countries had blamed the Danes earlier in
> > the talks of doing).
> >
> >
> [url]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Africa-emerges-champion-of-de[/url]
> v
> > eloping-worlds-cause/articleshow/5338173.cms
> >
> > End of forwarded article
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
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I was born in Bharat when it was officially ruled by the Brits. After
1947, and today it is still ruled by the West at many levels through
the corrupt, cowardly politicians, law enforcement officials,lawyers
and judges, administrators, business owners and others. And the
hangover from the centuries of slavery will continue for many
decades, wearing off slowly with time.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


> Forwarded message:
>
> J Jindal wrote on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
>
> Don't forget the history. China has mostly been a superpower during
> the last 2000 years except for about 300 years when the Europeans
> were compeletly dominating the world. Even then no European power
> dared to actually attempt to invade and take over China. Compare that
> to the Indian's mindset. They have been stupidly harping on the
> peaceful existence since around 300 BC (since Ashok's time). Whenever
> invaded, the best they ever did was to make some half hearted
> attempts to fight the invaders, mostly ending up losing to them. They
> have perfectly well learned to live as subjugated subjects during the
> last thirteen centuries. The present day (since independence) so-
> called political leaders of India, irrespective of which political
> outfit they belong to, keep on shouting SHANTI, PEACE, Kabhi Jang
> Nahin Karain Ge Hum etc. etc....This non-sense is not likely to stop
> any time soon, at least not for the next few decades.
>
> J. Jindal
>
> End of forwarded message
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> > Forwarded message:
> >
> > Sandhya Jain wrote on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
> >
> > This is China's diplomacy. That is how great nations operate. China
> > is a fitting answer to the white racists. India under Manmohan can
> > only twiddle its thumbs
> >
> > Sandhya
> >
> > End of forwarded message
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
> > >
> > > Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause
> > >
> > > By Nitin Sethi
> > > TNN
> > > The Times of India
> > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009
> > >
> > > Copenhagen: Under Kyoto Protocol, only industrialized countries are
> > > required to undertake emission reduction targets for the second phase
> > > starting 2012. (Watch Video)
> > >
> > > For the past week, they have tried every trick to prevent talks at
> > > the Copenhagen summit to progress on the front. They have instead
> > > tried to push for a deal in the second track called the Long Term
> > > Cooperative Action talks demanding all countries, including emerging
> > > economies, to take commitments, of one or the other kind, to reduce
> > > emissions as equals regardless of historical responsibility.
> > >
> > > With just three days remaining for all practical purposes (day four
> > > onwards the heads of states gather at the Danish capital) the African
> > > groups frustrated at the way industrialized countries were playing
> > > the game, have literally become the infantry for the developing
> > > world's interests in the climate wars.
> > >
> > > But other Latin American countries warned that attempts were still
> > > being made to have discussions with select countries at the cost of
> > > marginalizing voices of economically less important nations. Rumours
> > > of dinner diplomacy between select developing countries with
> > > industrialized nations and deals being cut on the side instead of in
> > > the main negotiations had the smaller countries fuming on Monday.
> > >
> > > The moral leadership at the Copenhagen meet was wrested by the
> > > African countries on Monday when, in a show of strength and
> > > solidarity, they stalled the climate talks and walked out as the rich
> > > industrialized countries began demanding that the Kyoto Protocol be
> > > set aside and discussions be held on only a single new track.
> > >
> > > In short, Africa erupted in outrage when the rich countries refused
> > > to provide money and technology to the poorer countries as enshrined
> > > in the Kyoto Protocol. Under Kyoto, the rich are expected to reduce
> > > their emissions too. Until now, the leadership in this fight has been
> > > provided by emerging economies like India and China. On Monday, they
> > > followed the African countries and staged a walkout along with other
> > > G-77 members, barring a small ginger group of island countries.
> > >
> > > With the climate talks hitting a roadblock, the rich countries have
> > > relented for the moment and included Kyoto in the talks. However,
> > > with barely 72 hours left to stitch up the details of a global
> > > climate deal, for which world leaders are expected to reach
> > > Copenhagen, Monday's face-off is hardly a hopeful augury.
> > >
> > > Once the African nations had decided to give as hard as they were
> > > getting from the industrialised countries, the BASIC four countries --
> > > India, China, South Africa and Brazil -- rallied behind them. They
> > > confronted the president of the negotiations -- the host Danes -- on
> > > the seeming logjam. Environment minister Jairam Ramesh took the lead,
> > > with the four key countries registering their protest that the
> > > schedule of talks for Monday had been engineered in a way that
> > > discussions on the Kyoto Protocol had been marginalized in favour of
> > > industrialized countries' demand that negotiations on Long Term
> > > Cooperative Action be prioritized.
> > >
> > > The solidarity of G-77 forced the Danes to back down. Danish
> > > environment minister Connie Hedegaard committed that the host country
> > > would ensure only the discussions held by the negotiators, complete
> > > or not, would be taken to the heads of states' meet for perusal on
> > > Friday and that new proposals from outside would not be brought in
> > > (something the developing countries had blamed the Danes earlier in
> > > the talks of doing).
>
> [url]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Africa-emerges-champion-of-developing-worlds-cause/articleshow/5338173.cms[/url]
>
> > > End of forwarded article
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti

In article <6oSdnXkhsrNutbXWnZ2dnUVZ_uNi4p2d@giganews.com>,
Rastus <none@nowhere.com> posted:

> > Gopal Ashtekar posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009:
> >
> > Africa emerges champion of developing world's cause

> Stupid, tree-dwelling NIGGERS can't champion anything. Their own countries
> are hell-holes of murder, corruption and AIDS. A more worthless race does
> not exist.

I don't think that he's qualified (is not a natural born citizen of the US) but
do note that a part-(tree-dwelling NI****, as you put it) happens to be the
president of the US. BTW, do you think that giganews.com gives you complete
anonymity? No USENET posting service does because the government can obtain
the subscriber/poster information.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti