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Old 01-12-08, 02:33 AM
artsy6@gmail.com
 
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So proclaims this article:

[url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]
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Old 01-12-08, 06:02 AM
Royke
 
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But the writer does not seem to have heard Kondrashin, Concertgebouw Orkest,
and Krebbers ...

<artsy6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> So proclaims this article:
>
> [url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]



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Old 01-12-08, 06:43 AM
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> So proclaims this article:
> [url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]


I remember critics in the 1960s judging it the best.

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Old 01-12-08, 06:49 AM
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In article <ebfdfbdd-c2f8-43a6-96e5-4d880cc38404@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, [email]artsy6@gmail.com[/email] wrote:

: So proclaims this article:
:
: [url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]

I personally find it -- as I do with almost every recording deemed "best"
by so-called critics -- to be overrated. Frankly, I prefer Previn/LSO.
Yes, you read that right.

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Old 01-12-08, 06:59 AM
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On Nov 30, 9:02 pm, "Royke" <ro...@canada.com> wrote:
> But the writer does not seem to have heard Kondrashin, Concertgebouw Orkest,
> and Krebbers ...


There does seem to be a dearth of modern recordings on this survey,
but I wouldn't bet on his not having heard Kondrashin. He seems to
have heard a fair number and probably has heard some others he didn't
mention.

Why he didn't mention Kondrashin, or Mackerras, Spano, Barenboim,
Ozawa, Muti, Ormandy, Masur, Chailly, Karajan, or Dutoit, is a
mystery, but no more mysterious than this comment like

"Golovanov constantly varies the textures with emphatic gestures of
huge crashing cymbals, boiling tympani, pounding bass pizzicato, and
outrageously commanding harp punctuation – and since this is a studio
recording, these embellishments can't be shrugged off as inadvertent
flukes of microphone placement in a concert hall setting."

--Jeff

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Old 01-12-08, 08:09 AM
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On Nov 30, 9:49*pm, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
> In article <ebfdfbdd-c2f8-43a6-96e5-4d880cc38...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups..com>, art...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> : So proclaims this article:
> :
> :[url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]
>
> I personally find it -- as I do with almost every recording deemed "best"
> by so-called critics -- to be overrated. *Frankly, I prefer Previn/LSO.
> Yes, you read that right.


Indeed, Previn's is a spectacular recording with great stars as
soloists (I recall Tuckwell as first horn being especially memorable).
I love my Scheherazades and I own more of them than I can count
(counting them only spoils the pleasure :-),
but as much as I love the Beecham, there is no such thing as best.
I even derived great pleasure from Celi's Scheherazade, which I found
positively Brucknerian :-)

RK
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Old 01-12-08, 08:28 AM
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On Nov 30, 11:09 pm, rkhalona <rkhal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 9:49 pm, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
>
> > In article <ebfdfbdd-c2f8-43a6-96e5-4d880cc38...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, art...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > : So proclaims this article:
> > :
> > :[url]http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics2/rimsky.html[/url]

>
> > I personally find it -- as I do with almost every recording deemed "best"
> > by so-called critics -- to be overrated. Frankly, I prefer Previn/LSO.
> > Yes, you read that right.

>
> Indeed, Previn's is a spectacular recording with great stars as
> soloists (I recall Tuckwell as first horn being especially memorable).
> I love my Scheherazades and I own more of them than I can count
> (counting them only spoils the pleasure :-),
> but as much as I love the Beecham, there is no such thing as best.
> I even derived great pleasure from Celi's Scheherazade, which I found
> positively Brucknerian :-)
>
> RK


Indeed the Celi Munich performance is marvelously Celicious.

--Jeff
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Old 01-12-08, 08:41 AM
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"jrsnfld@aol.com" <jrsnfld@aol.com> appears to have caused the following
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> On Nov 30, 11:09 pm, rkhalona <rkhal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> but as much as I love the Beecham, there is no such thing as best.
>> I even derived great pleasure from Celi's Scheherazade, which I found
>> positively Brucknerian :-)

>
> Indeed the Celi Munich performance is marvelously Celicious.


Is there a filler on CD2?

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Old 01-12-08, 08:57 AM
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[email]jrsnfld@aol.com[/email] wrote:
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> Why he didn't mention Kondrashin, or Mackerras, Spano, Barenboim,
> Ozawa, Muti, Ormandy, Masur, Chailly, Karajan, or Dutoit, is a
> mystery,


One Ormandy recording he did mention ("his 1962 Philadelphia Orchestra
recording, which remains a top choice for those seeking a Scheherazade of sheer
beauty").
But no Svetlanov, or Markevitch.


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Old 01-12-08, 09:10 AM
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On Nov 30, 11:57 pm, "Gerard" <ghen_nospam_drik...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> jrsn...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Why he didn't mention Kondrashin, or Mackerras, Spano, Barenboim,
> > Ozawa, Muti, Ormandy, Masur, Chailly, Karajan, or Dutoit, is a
> > mystery,

>
> One Ormandy recording he did mention ("his 1962 Philadelphia Orchestra
> recording, which remains a top choice for those seeking a Scheherazade of sheer
> beauty").
> But no Svetlanov, or Markevitch.


Yes...unfortunate, too, because the Svetlanov on BBC is perhaps the
best of the whole lot.

--Jeff
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