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08-11-08, 06:07 PM
| | | Advise on replacing tires My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
original tires (?)
Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
driving. We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
tires:
- What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
rotate the tires.
- What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
Dueler H/T the best?
- How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
- Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
- Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
- Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
and type of tires?
- Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
all 4. I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So far
the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
- What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks | 
08-11-08, 08:41 PM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires In article
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> My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
> Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
> original tires (?)
> Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
> distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
> happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
> day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
> temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
> in the winter....
wow, and you're on 75,000 mile, 10 year old tires?
> We usually drive in the city, not much highway
> driving. We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
> public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
> miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
> tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
> secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
> 4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
> tires:
> - What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
> miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
> serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
> still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
> rotate the tires.
The *tread* may be within specs, but the rubber is all gone to hell by
now.
And besides the 10 years, 75K is pushing ANY tire--even if that's on two
year old tires.
> - What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
> that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
> Dueler H/T the best?
There is only one: Nokian WR. Those tires absolutely ROCK. If you're
not going to get dedicated winter tires, get Nokian WR. | 
09-11-08, 12:01 AM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:07:33 -0800 (PST), Code: Content visible to registered users only.
wrote:
>My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
>Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
>original tires (?)
Not likely -- you should be lucky to get 1/2 of this on the OE tires.
>Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
>distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
>happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
>day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
>temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
>in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
>driving. We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
>public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
>miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
>tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
>secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
>4WD SUV instead of regular car).
Traction and braking ability are very temperature dependent. With
cold (less than 0 F or -20C), you really need "real winter" tires --
the compound on summer and even 'all season' tires is just too hard
and inflexible to give gfood traction at these temperatures).
>I have questions about replacing the
>tires:
>- What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
>miles common, or is it time to change the tires?
I really doubt that mileage claim.
>The last time we
>serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
>still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
>rotate the tires.
>- What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
>that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
>Dueler H/T the best?
>- How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
>- Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
>- Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
No, don't mix tires. The same brand/style should be on all four
wheels.
>- Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
>and type of tires?
>- Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
>all 4.
Change all four. If you only do two, and you have front wheel drive,
the car will oversteer to a danmgerous extent when it gets slippery &
cold. If rear wheel drive, you will understeer and plow straight
through a slippery corner.
>I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So far
>the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
>- What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
>Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
>Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks
For winter tires, it has been hard to beat the Bridgestone Blizzak
WS50s, although these have now been replaced with the newer WS60 (?)
model. When moving to a winter tire, it is best to reduce the tire
width by one grade, and increase the sidewall ratio, to maintain the
same tire circumference and correct speedometer/odometer readings.
E.G. 225/17/R50 >> 215/17/R55/.
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09-11-08, 06:52 AM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires
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> My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
> Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
> original tires (?)
> Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
> distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
> happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
> day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
> temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
> in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
> driving. We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
> public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
> miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
> tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
> secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
> 4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
> tires:
> - What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
> miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
> serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
> still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
> rotate the tires.
The average life expectancy of all season tires is around 40,000 to 60,000
miles. Tires with a higher treadwear rating will generally last longer,
tires with a lower treadwear rating (under 300) will generally have a
shorter life. Tires deteriorate even without wearing, so they should be
replaced every 10 years whether or not the tread is worn down.
> - What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
> that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
> Dueler H/T the best?
Check tirerack.com for tire ratings.
> - How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
Including mounting, balancing, old tire disposal fees, etc., expect to spend
ssomwhere between U.S. $700 and $1000 for decent tires, depending on the
tire size and quality.
> - Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
If you are happy with their performance before they wore down, yes.
> - Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
Yes, but the vehicle will not handle well not handle well in poor road
conditions and there will be accelerated wear on your center differential.
Best to replace 4 tires at once, especially if you have AWD.
> - Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
> and type of tires?
In theory, yes, but practically, no.
> - Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
> all 4. I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So far
> the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
Best to replace 4 at a time.
> - What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
> Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
> Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks
Check reviews at tirerack.com.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply) | 
10-11-08, 02:34 AM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires I doubt yours are the original. Dueler with a tread wear rating of 180
isn't likely to last that much longer than 18K miles. At least not
safely.
I would avoid Bridgestones/Firestones. Inexpensive tires are
inexpensive for a reason. I'd find a Michelin instead.
Tirerack reviews:
Would You Buy This Tire Again?
Most said: "Probably Not" (Average of 3.8 out of 10)
How Did This Tire Rank In Its Category?
52 out of 68 tires (Score of 5.8 vs best tire in category score of
8.7)
For example: "Initial Review, 25,000 Miles on Tires
September 20, 2008
Probably the worst tires I have ever bought. At 20K miles they were
75% worn. Traction and cornering are the worst. Will never buy from
Bridgestone again."
On Nov 8, 10:07*am, anira...@gmail.com wrote:
> My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
> Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
> original tires (?)
> Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
> distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
> happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
> day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
> temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
> in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
> driving. *We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
> public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
> miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
> tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
> secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
> 4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
> tires:
> - What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
> miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
> serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
> still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
> rotate the tires.
> - What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
> that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
> Dueler H/T the best?
> - How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
> - Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
> - Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
> - Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
> and type of tires?
> - Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
> all 4. I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So far
> the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
> - What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
> Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
> Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks | 
10-11-08, 02:36 AM
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On Nov 8, 10:07*am, anira...@gmail.com wrote:
> My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
> Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
> original tires (?)
> Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
> distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
> happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
> day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
> temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
> in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
> driving. *We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
> public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
> miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
> tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
> secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
> 4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
> tires:
> - What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
> miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
> serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
> still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
> rotate the tires.
> - What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
> that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
> Dueler H/T the best?
> - How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
> - Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
> - Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
> - Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
> and type of tires?
> - Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
> all 4. I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So far
> the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
> - What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
> Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
> Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks | 
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> Also check out:
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> Goodyear Fortera:
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> tera+TripleTred
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> Michelin LTX:
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> On Nov 8, 10:07*am, anira...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My 1999 Lexus RX300 has approx 120,000 km (75,000 miles). It has
>> Bridgestone Dueler H/T all season tires. I believe that they are the
>> original tires (?)
>> Recently, during a bad freezing rain day, my car skids over 10 ft
>> distance when I tried to stop at an intersection. Mind you, this
>> happened to be a bad day with over 200 bumper accidents on the same
>> day all over the town. This is in the canadian central region when
>> temperature can dip to -40F (or -40C), and there can be lots of snow
>> in the winter. We usually drive in the city, not much highway
>> driving. *We also do not use the car very much ( I commute using a
>> public transportation most of the time). Perhaps we drove about 7500
>> miles (1200 km) per year. I do not plan to have regular and winter
>> tires (too much work to change every year). However, I like to feel
>> secure when driving, particularly in the winter time (therefore the
>> 4WD SUV instead of regular car).I have questions about replacing the
>> tires:
>> - What is the general life expectancy of all season tires? Is 75,000
>> miles common, or is it time to change the tires? The last time we
>> serviced the car, the Lexus dealership told me that the tires are
>> still OK. I assume that they checked the tread thickness when they
>> rotate the tires.
>> - What is the best performance brand and model for all season tires
>> that grips the road well in icy winter conditions? Is Bridgestone
>> Dueler H/T the best?
>> - How much does it cost approximately for replacing the 4 tires?
>> - Should I stick to the Bridgestone Dueler H/T?
>> - Could brand tire name be mixed among the four wheels?
>> - Does a certain brand and model car fit better for a certain brand
>> and type of tires?
>> - Could you just change 1 or 2 tires at a time, or should you replace
>> all 4. I think we plan to keep the car for a couple more years. So
>> far the car has been great and it is still working flawlessly.
>> - What other brand tires that also fit best for the 1999 RX300?
>> Michelin cross track? Yokohama Geolander?
>> Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks
>
>
I installed GoodYear Comfort Ride after my original set of Bridgestones wore out. They are still like
new after 10,000 miles. Quieter and a better grip than the Bridgestone too.
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12-11-08, 05:10 AM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires
Buy Michelin. Past 35 years I have not had any problems with any of
the sets that I have purchased. There is probaly some optimum model
for your car, so just call Michelin at an 800 number and ask for
customer service if your local dealer can't help. I think most big
discount places like Sam's have the reccomendations from Michelin for
the different model cars. | 
13-11-08, 11:51 PM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires "Elmo P. Shagnasty" < - > wrote in message
news:elmop- - ...
> In article
> <b92fcfce-c9e8-4e1c-af5d- - >,
> Code: Content visible to registered users only.
wrote:
>
:
:
:
>
> There is only one: Nokian WR. Those tires absolutely ROCK. If you're
> not going to get dedicated winter tires, get Nokian WR.
I concure, these are damn good tires. Not the cheapest or easiest to come
by however. | 
14-11-08, 01:45 AM
| | | Re: Advise on replacing tires On Nov 13, 5:51*pm, "Jerohm" <jDrEmLoEh...@snet.net> wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote in messagenews:elmop- - ...> In article
> > <b92fcfce-c9e8-4e1c-af5d-f788cae8a...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > anira...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> :
> :
> :
>
>
>
> > There is only one: *Nokian WR. *Those tires absolutely ROCK. *If you're
> > not going to get dedicated winter tires, get Nokian WR.
>
> I concure, these are damn good tires. *Not the cheapest or easiest to come
> by however.
To get tires appears to be difficult in our town. The market appears
to be tight. Michelin tires are not in stock, and even that, they only
have low stock in other cities. Yokohama tires (Geolander) have to be
ordered from another cities in the west coast. Dealership is also
scarce. Bridgestone H/L Alenza tires are out of stock, and DK where
you can get one. However, strangely, one tire dealership is selling
Nokian WR G2 tires and have lots in stock. I look at the tires and it
has good grooves and soft (which may be good for winter driving).
However, it is only rated for 80,000 km. Michelin has 100,000 or
110,000 km.
Has anyone else using Nokian WR G2 tires? How is the performance in
snow, ice and winter? Will the tire wear out quickly in the summer?
I never heard Nokian tires before, and the company is located in the
Nordic country (Finland). It just sounds like a cellphone name
"Nokia". Their website indicated that they sell lots of tires in the
Scandinavian countries, Russia, etc.
The price is very competitive, 15% less than Michelin LTX or Latitude
Tour, and over 20% less than the Bridgestone Alenza,
Any other comments about this Nokian tires? Two replies above appears
to agree that it is an excellent tire. Thanks for the info. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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